My now 13 month pup started tracking at 10 months, still puppy-yips on the track with an occasional bawl thrown in. I can tell she is getting more and more maturing in her voice.

However, once she trees, all she does is sit quietly at the base of the tree and look up. She may jump on the tree a couple times, then sits back down and watches.

If she air scents the coon out on a branch, she will run around under the branch looking up in that direction.

Since she does not make noise, I have been using a lighted collar on her (and trying to keep up behind her enough to see where she 'lands'), but many times, I know she is treed up somewhere, but can't find her.

After a while, if I can't find her, she will go back out and hunt or come back and check in with me.

We have hunted her with a pup trainer, and she will tree with the other dog, but not make noise. We can of course find her then, because the other dog is treeing.

The reason we wanted to hunt her by herself, is to make sure she is tracking her own coon, and not relying on the other dog. Now we know she can track her own, do we keep hunting her with other dogs until she starts barking on the tree, even though 99% of everyone says she needs to be hunted by herself.

Well, unless she makes noise, we can't find her at the tree, and I fear she is only learning to NOT stay at the tree at all, because 'nothing happens' there.

We have knocked young coon out to her still alive, and she will get right in there and shake them and fight them like a seasoned campaigner, she will jump on the tree and open her mouth like barking but no sound. She has a VERY loud bawl and bark when she wants to around the farm and if she is chasing a live coon she will yip-bay on the run, so I know she has vocal chords fully functional!

We have tried shaking trees and knocking coon out of tree this way to get her excited, and she does jump around and get excited, just no noise at the tree!

Any suggestions welcome! I suspect we just "wait," and someday she will start barking?

after a kill season under this young dog's belt, you will see a world of difference.

Has this dog been worked with much on drags and hung up caged coon?

take her with the other dogs..when they tree and are barkin and she aint..pet them and ignore her...that should make her start barkin..but i personally think it will just take time ..but with u pettin the other dogs..that makes her jealous. and will make her develop more...

Thanks for the responses.

I have not used drags or caged coon with this pup.

I did use a couple drags with my first hound, but never got around to it with this pup, we just started walking her in the woods and taking her out with the pup trainer a couple times a week.

She was jumping good on the tree last night after a nice long track (we finally got rain, and some fog last night got the coon up and running a lot!) and seemed a lot more excited than before. Still no barking, but it feels like that is in there and one day she is going to discover her voice!

She actually sits down at the tree and watches if I pet up the other dog.

Very patient girl, I guess!

a cage coon is probly what that pup needs i would say something were she can see it...

Id tease her with the caged coon in the tree, have a rope on the cage and when shes sitting under the tree, raise and lower the cage to get her fired up., just an idea.

I would NOT use a caged coon... You will get her treeing by sight.. Not what you want. And if you are having to lower the coon to get her to tree you will replicate the exact same problem you are trying to fix. She will sit there quietly until it is dropped down for her. Leave the cages alone.

I would keep tying her up and not let her have any piece of the coon. Pet the other dogs up real good and wait her out. If she just started running 3 months ago then the light bulb probably hasn't gone off in her head about treeing yet. I had one who didn't start until she was about 14 months old. We never showed that dog a caged coon. The light bulb went off one day and she is a very nice tree dog now...

I am sort of having the same problem my 7 month old pup he's barking at home in the pen and in the dog box but not in the woods. Acording to my Garmin he is running with the old dog in most cases. Will fight the coon but has only hunted 5 times. Is this good for his age and will he come around on his own in most cases? He is out of WitchDoctor and Cutters Dolley all Grand Ped. Very gental dog untill he sees a Coon and wants to go hunting every drop.

I would tease it but with a dead coon at night on a rope hanging from a tree. Drag it to the tree, rub it up the trunck, then bull it up were the dog can't see it to good. Let it run the track and tree a little. Then tease it by lowering the coon up and down. Try to work her into a frenzy. Then pet and praise her all the way to the truck. Don't give her a bite even. If she works up into a frenzy and does reel good. You can take her were she can get a easy coon or do the same thing 2-3 days and then take her out. Kind of like the girls did us in high school. Works on dogs too.

Keep hunting her, sounds like she is doing pretty good. Like mentioned earlier, she will click one night and probably just blow the top out of the tree. I am willing to bet within the next month or close to that she will bark treed. ALL dogs have a quirk or two here or there. Good hot feeder races would help. I would not knock anymore coon out to her if she doesn't bark up at em. IF she even squeeks a little at the tree I would praise. I would also be carefull about getting to animated at the tree trying to get her to bark. This could easily get her to relying on you being at the tree before barking. Just keep her at em. She will put it together, she's young yet. Good luck, sounds like a smart little hound.

first thing is your male pup is 6 months younger then the female in the first post. he is kinda young. i would not let him have the coon at all till he is barking treed. leave him tied back. shoot the coon to your other dog.do not let the pup help kill it. rub the coon on the tree or a small tree close by and throw it up in the tree.crotch or small fork higher then your head. let your pup up on the tree and let him tree on it. dont let him jump up and get it. if he wont tree on it, tie him close to it and let your old dog up on the tree with your pup.dont let the dogs jump and get the coon.if the pup trees then let him tree some ,pet him some and pull the dogs and leave the coon hanging in the tree.leave the coon up in the tree so the pup remembers the coon up in the tree. if you give in and let him have it, then you have not done him any good,he will remember the coon on the ground.pull them while the pup is worked up and wanting the coon,do not stay there letting him tree on it for a long time. do this on two or three coon and then no more. hunt the pup about once a week and do not let him in on the kill or have the dead coon until he trees for it.by not showing your pup some connection with the coon in the tree,when you shoot one out,it is just falling out of the sky in his mind.you will notice the pup will be checking every tree looking for the coon on the way out. thats why its important to only do this coon hang two and no more then three times. you dont want to make him tree happy. do not do more then one time per night you take him. after you do the coon hang. take him home and leave him for a few days and nights to let it sink in before you take him again. i would not take him again till the following week.remember, this is NOT to get him to treeing or work on his treeing,it is only done to make the connection with the coon up the tree.later on, once he is working a track to a tree with your other dog or even better by his self,he should re-make the connection in his head that the coon is up the tree..just a few times will stick it in his head forever,you can very easily make him a slick treeing idiot by over doing this style of training.better too little, then done too much.using a rope and pulling the coon up and down will often cause dogs to start jumping when treed.dont cause a problem you dont need to.just the coon in the tree will be enough for just about any dog to make and remember the connection.you can work on his treeing once he starts on his own from his bred in instincts and wanting the coon bad enough to start barking for it..................TC

Went hunting with the old dog and my 7 month old pup friday night. Treed in a den tree but the coon was on the outside. We held back the pup shot the coon and then was able to squal the coon out of the tree. The coon met the dog at the base of the tree where it bit the dog on the nose and caused her to drop it and it went in it's hole at the base of the tree. The pup saw this and about knocked my friend over while trying to hold him back so we turned him loose he went to the tree and started treeing and stayed treeing for fifteen min. while we tried to get the coon out with no luck.
The next night the pup went with the old dog then went the other direction and would not leave this spot and heared him bark one time. So I went and looked he had a opposum up a tree, so I just lead him away and told him no and he did not go back to it. Old dog treed about a half mile away so I drove down and let the pup loose. He went to the tree so I tied him back and shot the coon out to the old dog. I then draged it up a small tree and turned the pup lose and he treed for about 10 Min. Then petted him up and walked him back to the truck. Kill season endes tonight and I am working so I have to wate untill March 1 to run him again.

so he is showing improvement, right. the lay up should help the dog, letting him age a month and with the lesson you last put on him. plenty of time for it to sink in. sounds like he is gonna be just fine to me. i know your probably resting easier seeing that he will tree .although his tree alone was a grinner ,he is also showing you the right stuff by treeing on it, too...sounds like he is a nice pup and has the tools to make it......... ...........TC

I would work him on a dead coon drag once a weak. Shoot a starter pistol after he has treed on it a while and drop the coon to him. You can give him more positive rewards on treeing the right thing till next month. You can allso not let it reach all the way to the ground. Just make the rope tight with the coon barely touching the ground or just a little off. It gives the coon a little movement when the pup is mauling it. If he goes nuts on it. I would just drop it. But if he isn't as interested as he should be you can hang it so it will move a little.
That way if he trees a grinner or two you can leed him off telling him bad and he will catch on to the differance between what you tell him on a grinner and his big party under a coon.