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plotthunter17
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Post subject: dog is climbing trees Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:39 pm
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i have a female walker that is the best dog in my area.. she is the fastest tracking dog i have ever hunted with and trees hard and will stay on the tree for hours, or maybe i should say up the tree for hours. that is the problem she climbs trees. if the coon is 40 ft. up she goes that high. i try to get to the tree as fast as possible to shoot the coon and when i do shoot it she comes down. she is a timid dog and i am working on that. and i used a shock collar once on her and she took off. so shocking isnt working.. any suggestions.. please help me. 
_________________ ringo-straight out of nocturnal nailor, sissy-straight out of hickory nut hairy..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:28 am
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I would say quit shooting the coon down as soon as you get there. By doing so you're telling your dog what she is doing is ok. Next time get in there and get her down, whatever it takes, just get her down. When she is on the ground tie her back so she can't climb. Make it known you aren't happy with her in the tree, but praise her up once she is on the ground and treeing. Don't shoot the coon though, I would say do this a few times and see if she stays on the ground. If she stays out of the tree then shoot her a coon down. I say as long as she is climbing don't shoot a coon to her. If hunting with other dogs that stay on the ground, tie her back and shoot it to them. Show her the reward is for staying on the ground. Just my opinion anyhow. The e-collar will only do good if you use it right when she is getting in the tree. Try taking her out and putting a hide in a tree and let her go to treeing. Be ready so that if she starts climbing give her the pinch, do it everytime she tries to climb. Might take a few times, but should work. Have you worked her on the shock collar before?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:21 am
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well kind of. once a week or so i get on my 4 wheeler and go for a ride and all my dogs follow me. for excercise. sometimes she will kind of get sidetracked and head another direction and i give her a little jolt with the collar. evertime she takes off as fast as she can yipping.. then i have to follow her and try and catch her.
_________________ ringo-straight out of nocturnal nailor, sissy-straight out of hickory nut hairy..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:30 am
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She runs when you shock her? Does she know the command "come?" Are you giving that command before you shock her? If you're not then she wouldn't know why she was getting shocked, I would think. If I didn't know why I was suddenly in pain I'd run too.
My dog is a tree-climber if he's at the tree too long, especially if I'm there whooping and encouraging him to tree. If he climbs I pull him down everytime as fast as I can, since climbing can get real dangerous (imagine a dog fighting a coon IN a tree, that'd be ugly).
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:59 am
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i think a smack on the head once you have got her down and she starts back up tie her to the ground and let her tree on the ground then pet her up.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:52 am
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I think you may have your collar turned up too high. I have been using the e-collar for basic comands and all I look for is a head shake or ear twitch or something, that tells me they are feeling it. Thats all they need. I think you may have to sort of start back at square one with the collar, figure out the lowest level she feels. Use simple commands when using the collar, don't yell and scream. This just tells her that you are mad and something is pinching her on the neck. This confuses her and thus the running off. Good luck and keep it simple.
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plotthunter17
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:02 am
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well my collar runs from level 1-10 and i put the collar on 4 and none of my other dogs hardly feel it. she is just a little timid. but i think from now on i will drag her out of the tree and tie her to it so she cant climb it. hopefully this works. thanx guys for all the help.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:53 pm
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i agree with mtb&tkira, every dog has a different tollerance to the collars, level four on my e collar pert near drops my dog to the ground. like mtb&tkira was sayin u just want it so they can feel it, but dont drop them, i only shocked my dog on the highest level once, that was the first deer she chased. good luck
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:03 pm
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I've got levels 1-6 on my system. I usually use 2 and get good results. I only use level 3 when the dog is real bad, or once when I was doing some porcupine breaking. Use the lowest level possible, whatever catches the dog's attention... it's like swatting the dog versus punching the dog.
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MTB&TKira01
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:47 pm
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Hope you can figure it out, dogs climbing trees can turn bad real fast. You'll end up packing her out of the woods sooner or later. Good luck with it, I think you should focus your attention at how you deal with her at the tree.
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plotthunter17
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:17 pm
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thanx guys
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