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croatankid
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Post subject: aggressive dog Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:04 pm
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my 9 mon old cur is aggresive. very aggresive. she is as friendly as any dog when i give her her dog food but if i stand there, she starts growling at me and acting possesive of her bowl. she stands over her dish and growls really bad. i've flipped her many times like people say to do and hold her there but she doesn't stop growling and if i relax my grip, she will try to bit me and has bitten me a few times. as soon as she steps away from her dish, she's ok. she's even possessive of her dog house, she prefer one of two. if the other cur walks past her while she's in it, she growls at the dog. i'm concerned i might have to put her down and i hate that because she's so nice, except for that. she's very gritty and hunts her heart out. i sure can use some advice. normally i would ask for advice on the squirrel dog central but the guy i bought her from visits there and i don't want to offend him. you see, she was aggressive as a little puppy and i mentioned it to him and he offered to take her back but i decided to keep her. so it's all on me but i don't want the dog to reflect badly upon him. since dogs are dogs, i figure your hound experience would be just as good as cur experience. thanks!!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:17 pm
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My dog would only get away with that once, then he`d think that I`d just turned into the biggest badest dog he`d ever seen! I wouldn`t ever kick a dog but I`d sure switch one and if he bit me he`d only get one chance. If after his "correction" he ever tried to bite me again it would be with his last breath. Seriously, get her under control now! It sucks but sometimes the only way to get control is to cause a confrontation at the food bowl and then correct her insuch a way that she never tries it again.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:01 pm
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Okay..here it is. This is obviously a dominate dog. You have been bitten and you most likely do have a fear of it happening again and the dog knows this. You need to have confidence and the persona to be top dog.
Dogs show agression in many ways that are not know to us, sometimes it is posturing or a look, or focusing energy on another. It needs to be corected at once.
What I would do is roll the dog over and make it submit to every other dog you own. Let the other dog smell it and whatever. She must remain still and you must remain in control.
Dogs do not like being abused or kick or roughly handled and those kinds of dogs will get worse like that. A leader does not taunt or try to control, it is like a calm control.
Walk the dog! spend time with it and you need to become the leader.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:53 am
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I have a dog that will growl at me occasionally, it has been getting worse lately. He was beaten in his life so when I come down on him with punishment he has the fear growling and won't fully submit. Tough luck for him, ALL my dogs are expected to submit to me no matter what. What I've learned to do is continue the punishment (growling or not) pretty rough, and then when I stop it is at the one moment that he won't growl any more (which is yelling, he won't stop growling when I swat him). Always end sessions at the moment you are in control, whether that's after a "beating" or on a lesser note of yelling.
My other dog used to show aggression towards other dogs but swatting him every time he did seems to have broken him of that.
I don't agree with forcing the dog to be submissive to other dogs. They have a hierarchy and if he is dominant then that's fine, swat the actual snarls but don't force submission. That's my opinion. Sounds like badkarma has had success with that, so I'm willing to bet there are more ways than one to skin a cat 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:31 am
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i did a search on this topic and read it all. i've been on this board a long time and on the sqc board since oct of 98. i've read a ton of stuff on aggresive dogs, including walk with wick. i recently watched "the dog whisperer" i saw him settle down a dog that looked hopeless. so, while most of what i've read says to put her down, the dog whisperer shows that it can be fixed. i've killed many dogs. my brother and i used to do it for sport. but, thank god, i've grown up and have become more compassionate.
at this mornings' feeding, i put her dish near the other curs dish and i put my feet around the dish before i let her have it. she never growled. when she finished she started growling at the older cur because she wanted her food as well. i slapped the pup a few times, "up side the head", and loudly said NO each time, not real hard but kinda hard and she stopped. i did this twice and she was ok. after the older cur finished i told the pup that she could have it and all was well.
i'm gonna work on this dog and not give up on her lightly. there is no taking a bullet back. i can always shoot her tomorrow.
thanks for your comments!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:15 am
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If i had a dog that growled at me when i was feeding it here is what i would do. Put a shock collar on the next time right before you feed him and love him up real good and then feed him. Stand right beside him while he is eating and if he growls shock him. and continue doing this. Love him up alot and spend alot of time with the dog.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:20 am
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my dog has growled at me once. when they growl at you you dont have time to hesitate, the instant they do it you need to retaliate with a little beating. i think it should hurt a little and scare them a little more, you dont need to put your dog in traction or anything, just a few quick slaps and maybe some yelling, they need to know what happens when they try to dominate you
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:43 am
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Croatankid, don't beat on this dog. These cur are built different than a hound and won't take it. A good cur will do whatever it takes to survive and will flat try to take you out if they have to. Keep doing what you're doing and establish a natural dominence over the pup. It has to show in everything you do, from the minute you let her out of the kennel. When you open the kennel door, tell her to "back" and don't let her out until you say she can. All you'll have to do is look her in the eye, point a finger at her and block the exit. When she comes up to you, look her in the eye and tell her to sit. Reward with a pat on the noggin or a biscuit only after she obeys. Sit on the ground and let her come to you, don't try to catch her because if you don't immediately, she dominated that exercise. Set her food bowl down and just block it with your leg like you've been doing. She'll soon understand that it belongs to you and she can eat from it only when you let her. She's young and will be fine if you just work with her every day.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:44 am
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Don't use a shocker as it will make it worse. Beating a agressive dog will make it worse as now he has to fight you and he will. A fearful person will lose control and beat a dog and the dog knows this. They are smarter than most people believe believe.
I have worked with many dogs that were agressive and labeled as killers. Some of those dogs have killed other dogs. You just need to put an effort in ot to find out what triggers them and why. A leader will never attack another in his pack for dominace. They is a calm assertive agression but never uncontrolled.
I forgot about food. I use auto feeders but my dogs are fine. Food should be offered to the dog like a pack leader would. Do not use bowls now. Feed all by hand and have them all around you at he same time. Make it so you are the only way they will get food. Never withold food but make sure that the food comes from you. Not a bowl of a feeder or on the ground. It has to come from you.
Feeding time and walking time is how you do it with an agressive dog. Yes people will tell you to put them down but if you have patience and time most will come around.
There are many kinds of agression also so read up on that and do not forget that fear is agression. Get into the dogs head. I find it very fun or maybe I am just bored but I have had much sucess.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:17 pm
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croatankid wrote: i did a search on this topic and read it all. i've been on this board a long time and on the sqc board since oct of 98. i've read a ton of stuff on aggresive dogs, including walk with wick. i recently watched "the dog whisperer" i saw him settle down a dog that looked hopeless. so, while most of what i've read says to put her down, the dog whisperer shows that it can be fixed. i've killed many dogs. my brother and i used to do it for sport. but, thank god, i've grown up and have become more compassionate. at this mornings' feeding, i put her dish near the other curs dish and i put my feet around the dish before i let her have it. she never growled. when she finished she started growling at the older cur because she wanted her food as well. i slapped the pup a few times, "up side the head", and loudly said NO each time, not real hard but kinda hard and she stopped. i did this twice and she was ok. after the older cur finished i told the pup that she could have it and all was well. i'm gonna work on this dog and not give up on her lightly. there is no taking a bullet back. i can always shoot her tomorrow. thanks for your comments! '
You are on the right track by doing it this way.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:18 pm
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SteveM wrote: Croatankid, don't beat on this dog. These cur are built different than a hound and won't take it. A good cur will do whatever it takes to survive and will flat try to take you out if they have to. Keep doing what you're doing and establish a natural dominence over the pup. It has to show in everything you do, from the minute you let her out of the kennel. When you open the kennel door, tell her to "back" and don't let her out until you say she can. All you'll have to do is look her in the eye, point a finger at her and block the exit. When she comes up to you, look her in the eye and tell her to sit. Reward with a pat on the noggin or a biscuit only after she obeys. Sit on the ground and let her come to you, don't try to catch her because if you don't immediately, she dominated that exercise. Set her food bowl down and just block it with your leg like you've been doing. She'll soon understand that it belongs to you and she can eat from it only when you let her. She's young and will be fine if you just work with her every day.
Good stuff right here. Listen to Steve on this.
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